AMD Ryzen 1700 CPU vs 1700X CPU Review

So there has been a lot of talk about what Ryzen CPU do you buy? The way I think is that you want to buy the least expensive one that will give you the best performance. That is exactly what we expect to find out here today. Is the Ryzen 1700 for $330 as good as the $400 1700X, or even the $500 1800X?

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Conclusions

Fairly interesting, or fully uninteresting results depending on how you look at things. With a single exception, all of our benchmark and application scores were less than 1% difference. There is no doubt that all of our results were easily inside the margin or error. I think we can suggest here that the Ryzen 1700 and Ryzen 1700X CPUs are the "same" CPUs. I can also extend that to say that these are the same as the Ryzen 1800X as well. Now that we know all of these CPUs are the same, let's talk about overclocking.

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Overclocking the Ryzen 1700

The Ryzen 1700 I used for overclocking here today was supplied by AMD. I do however have a retail sample on the way as well. It will hopefully be here today so I can get it onto the same GIGABYTE X370-Gaming 5 for an overclock comparison. I however do not expect to see a lot of variance.

Talking to folks at AMD, I was told that these new Ryzen CPUs were not binned on speed, but rather on voltage, and it seems that Ryzen is getting very good yields that are very similar. Surely there are going to be variances when we are overclocking CPUs, but I do not feel at this time that we are going to see a lot of differences.

The two 1700X CPUs I have tested are identical in regards to overclocking performance. Those two CPUs were rock solid at 4.025GHz with 3000MHz and 3200MHz RAM. Both of these were at 1.4v vCore, 1.2v SOC, and 1.4v RAM. In fact, backing down on the RAM clocks did not give us any more headroom when overclocking at all. AMD got its IMC right! I am very sure of that.

The single Ryzen 1700 I have did not fare as well, but it was not far behind. The best I could get out of it and it remain rock solid was 3.966GHz with either 3000 or 3200Mhz memory, at the very same voltages above. It did however do this with water or good air cooling, the same as the 1700X CPUs.

Below is a screen shot of the 1700 running two instances of HandBrake encodings for over two hours. If it is not "real world" stable, this will break it.

I did push the vCore as high as 1.45v, which related to an actual variable vCore of 1.5v with CPU Load Line Calibration set to "Extreme" in the UEFI, but it netted me no more stability at the clocks I was working with. Given this is my only 1700, I did want to save it for later.

On water and good air cooling on an open bench we saw the package core temperatures reach a maximum of 75C.

The 1700 and 1700X CPUs are a bit more forgiving than the Intel processors we are so used to dealing with. These Ryzen CPUs do not BSOD or crash the system like we will see with Intel systems when we have pushed the overclocks a bit too far. Many times stressing programs like ASUS RealBench will simply "Halt," noting that an instability has been detected. The same with HandBrake. HandBrake will usually just fault to its "off" state and just stop encoding. Your mileage may vary, but that is what I have seen happening. Of course you can push the Ryzen into dicey territory as well where it will immediately fail as soon as it sees any type of load at all, but that generally happens right around the 4.05GHz mark with the three CPUs that I have tested.

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The video below is a quick look at our system and a bit of discussion about clocks, temperatures, and stability.

The Bottom Line

For those of you looking to save a few bucks and build a budget system with as many cores as could previously be had for $1000, the Ryzen 1700 processor is looking to be the best value in Ryzen CPUs for the overclocker. For all intents and purposes, the Ryzen 1700 is the same CPU as the 1700X and the 1800X at quite a cost savings. The one caveat may be, and this is a guess based on very little testing so far, that the 1700 may not show the same overclocking prowess as the X models. Even then it was less than 100MHz, which is something that you would never be able to identify in everyday usage and gaming.

Update: We just got our new Ryzen 1700 in this morning that we purchased. Here is a quick unboxing video, and I take a few minutes to check IHS and Wraith mating surface flatness.

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