[H] Enthusiast Archives: May 2003Archive Listing


Wednesday May 28, 2003

[H]ardNews - Interview Edition

Intel Interview:

SimHQ has an interview with one of our favorite guys, George Alfs, from Intel. A pretty good Q&A session that covers a variety of topics including PAT, which has gotten a lot of attention lately.

Can you explain what PAT means to all of us non-technical people? “How does this help my computer go faster”? is the most common question.

Performance Acceleration Technology is one of the features of our 875P (Canterwood) chipset. We basically bin our Memory Controller Hub (MCH) chips like our CPUs, finding the fastest silicon. We can then use this fast silicon to shave off a couple of memory clock cycles, resulting in better performance.

ATi Interview:

The fellas at Gaming Illustrated have a video interview with ATi Marketing Director, Paul Ayscough. The interview was conducted at E3, so there is a good deal of background noise, but it doesn’t interfere with the audio or Paul’s cool accent too much. The download is 24MB, and has some pretty good stuff in it.

At the E3 Expo in Los Angeles, Executive Editor Sean Gibson caught up with Paul Ayscough, ATI's marketing director, and talked everything ATI - including the latest in current PC gaming technology.

[H]ardNews 2nd Edition

VIAArena Photo Contest:

Here is a simple way to win a mainboard, go to VIAArena and submit a picture of you and your friends getting st00pid. Sounds easy enough…now, I know how most of you guys are out there…but I don’t think they are taking nude submissions, you might want to at least ask first.

To WIN a Soltek SL-KT400A-L mainboard all for yourself, enter this simple competition. Take picture of your or your friends PC gaming or work desk. The funniest and/or most interesting entry will win. You might want to deliberately change or add things for the photo, or you might just have an interesting work station already. You or another person can be in the photo if you want, but there doesn't have to be any person in the photo. The best photo to be submitted via email to john.gatt@viaarena.com by Friday 13th June 2003, will have their photo made available for download in the Fun Downloads section and be awarded a Soltek SL-KT400A-L*, kindly donated by Soltek Headquarters, Taipei.

eBay Found Guilty:

eBay found guilty, ordered to pay $35 million in damages. OUCH!!! What can you say to that? This is a serious blow to eBay for sure. Thanks Fam.

The willful infringement ruling opens the door for the judge to hold eBay liable for triple damages, or $105 million, said Neil Smith, an attorney specializing in intellectual property law at Howard Rice in San Francisco. The judge may also issue an injunction against eBay to prevent the company from continuing to use the patented invention, a method for using a credit card to lock in an offer to purchase items online, Smith said.

Got Hot Flashes?

Hotflashing your BIOS when all else fails is a time honored tradition that most of us have done at one point or another. Overclocked Café has a guide to hot flashing your dead board, for those of you who need to flash a dead board. While I have done ot personally a million times, with very few “incidents”…I strongly caution those who have never tried it. Sometime paying the $10 to get a new BIOS from your board manufacturer is the best alternative.

So, whether you can stay clear of corrupting your BIOS by following a few simple directions, the possibility still exists to end up with a corrupt chip due to any number of reasons. The plain and simple fact is this: don’t flash your BIOS unless you need to and do so, and then, understand that it’s at your own risk.

[H]ardNews 1st Edition

The Carmack Speaks:

There are very few people in the industry that can be considered an “authority” in the world of 3D graphics, John Carmack is such a man, most of us might say THE man.. So when John Carmack speaks on the subject of this whole NVIDIA / Futuremark benchmark fiasco, I have a tendency to believe what he has to say. Extremely interesting reading.

Rewriting shaders behind an application's back in a way that changes the output under non-controlled circumstances is absolutely, positively wrong and indefensible.

Rewriting a shader so that it does exactly the same thing, but in a more efficient way, is generally acceptable compiler optimization, but there is a range of defensibility from completely generic instruction scheduling that helps almost everyone, to exact shader comparisons that only help one specific application. Full shader comparisons are morally grungy, but not deeply evil.

The significant issue that clouds current ATI / Nvidia comparisons is fragment shader precision. Nvidia can work at 12 bit integer, 16 bit float, and 32 bit float. ATI works only at 24 bit float. There isn't actually a mode where they can be exactly compared. DX9 and ARB_fragment_program assume 32 bit float operation, and ATI just converts everything to 24 bit. For just about any given set of operations, the Nvidia card operating at 16 bit float will be faster than the ATI, while the Nvidia operating at 32 bit float will be slower. When DOOM runs the NV30 specific fragment shader, it is faster than the ATI, while if they both run the ARB2 shader, the ATI is faster.

When the output goes to a normal 32 bit framebuffer, as all current tests do, it is possible for Nvidia to analyze data flow from textures, constants, and attributes, and change many 32 bit operations to 16 or even 12 bit operations with absolutely no loss of quality or functionality. This is completely acceptable, and will benefit all applications, but will almost certainly induce hard to find bugs in the shader compiler. You can really go overboard with this -- if you wanted every last possible precision savings, you would need to examine texture dimensions and track vertex buffer data ranges for each shader binding. That would be a really poor architectural decision, but benchmark pressure pushes vendors to such lengths if they avoid outright cheating. If really aggressive compiler optimizations are implemented, I hope they include a hint or pragma for "debug mode" that skips all the optimizations.

John Carmack

Tuesday May 27, 2003

[H]ardNews 11th Edition

Opteron Arrives

We got ours. You got yourn? Seriously, we figured the best way to get familiar with the Opteron was to actually use one...or two.

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This is a brand new dually Opteron server that we purchased from RackSaver. It will be going in soon as a web server and handling our primary DNS. We figured you might like to see where your [H] pages will be coming from. Do me a favor and everyone click on this RackSaver link all at the same time...so maybe next time we will get a discount!

[H]ardNews 10th Edition

More Intel PAT:

A couple of you wrote in today to ask about my "Also a -100MB/s score does not a Springdale make" comment. The recent rumor flying about Intel's 875P Performance Acceleration Technology being disabled when running more than 2 DIMMs simply does not have the proof behind it needed to give the theory teeth. We showed you today in this graph, how the bandwidth was negatively impacted about 100MB/s by using a 4 stick DDR configuration. Granted there is a difference, but not one of the magnitude that you think you would see if PAT were disabled.

According to Intel, PAT is the defining difference between the i865PE/Springdale and the i875P/Canterwood chipsets. Going back to some of our recent reviews, I pulled some data that shows memory bandwidth differences between the two chipsets.

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As you can see, as PAT is absent on the 865PE, there is much more than a 100MB/s difference. With that shown, I have to reason that the Intel Chipset Group engineers are correct when they say that PAT cannot be disabled.

[H]ardNews 9th Edition

PlayStation2 Super Computer:

Personally, I think an Xbox would have been far better suited ( hardware wise ) for this, but the University of Illinois has built a super computer using $50,000 worth of PS2 game consoles. The funny part is they are using the graphics processor, and not the system processor, for this project. Blame Joe and Fam for this one.

As perhaps the clearest evidence yet of the power of sophisticated but inexpensive game consoles, the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign has assembled a supercomputer from an army of Sony PlayStation 2 devices. The resulting system, with components purchased at retail prices, cost a little more than $50,000. Researchers at the supercomputing center believe the system may be capable of a half trillion operations a second.

VIA EPIA M10000:

The gang at the Tech-Report have reviewed the VIA EPIA M10000 today attempting to answer the age old question “How fast is fast enough?”. The HTPC guys have worked their magic using the EPIA series of boards for a long time now, mainstream folks are starting to come around too I guess.

In the end, the EPIA-M10000 is definitely a viable platform for small form factor home theater PCs and business or home desktops; just don't try to build a gaming rig or high-performance system with the board. The EPIA-M10000's small size also makes it perfect for more inventive and interesting projects that can't accommodate larger systems or higher power requirements.

Mushkin Memory:

Ireland’s source for PC News has posted a review of Mushkin’s Enhanced Black PC3200 memory. It’s black and enhanced…not sure what the hell that means for memory performance, but now you know.

Well, today we are going to look at Mushkin's high performance PC3200 memory, the Mushkin Enhanced Black Hi Perf Level II 512MB PC3200 module.Quite a mouthful I must say. Because we intend to test the memory on a Canterwood board and a nForce2 board, we had no choice but to get 2 sticks for best performance, for Dual Channel operation.

[H]ardNews 8th Edition

PAT Rumors:

We have been getting [H]'er mail since last night informing us that Intel's i875P Performance Acceleration Technology is "disabled" if you utilize all four memory slots on most Canterwood chipset boards. I think the source of the information is this paragraph over at 3DXtreme.

During our review of the DFI Lan Party Intel PRO875 we stumbled across a problem with Performance Acceleration Technology (PAT). When populating all four DIMM slots the Intel Canterwood chipset disables PAT. After further testing I contacted DFI, DFI was able to confirm this same issue with their headquarters in Tawain.

From our testing this is not the case, and we have tested multiple boards loaded with Ram. Of course this is not to say that 3DXtreme is not having issues with his board, but it does not seem to be an i875P chipset level problem.

Below is a picture of 2GB of Kingston HyperX running at very aggressive timings in a DCDDR400 configuration. We used this Chaintech 9CJS for testing this morning as it was already in the midst of being reviewed.

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Below you see the memory scores using different configurations. This was a Pentium 4 2.4C running 800MHz FSB and DCDDR400.

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You can obviously note that when all four slots are utilized we have a about a 100MB/s drop or about a 2% dip. The 256 HyperX sticks are single sided while the 512 HyperX is double sided. Obviously that is not negatively impacting the scores. From what little analysis we have here it is hard to decide what the issue really is. I think we are simply seeing some latency issues from more physical modules being introduced to the bus. While 100MB/s might be the end all be all to some benchmarkers, it is hardly more than a bump in overall scoring. We have benchmarked 256MB, 512MB, 1GB, and 2GB configurations and rest assured there are real benefits. (Maybe another article?)

Bottom line is this. Intel's Performance Acceleration technology does not simply disable itself when expanding to four DIMM slots or six. Also a -100MB/s score does not a Springdale make. According to the Intel Chipset Group as of this morning, PAT cannot be disabled in the 875P chipset. While you might see something of this nature in the BIOS, it would seem that it might not be labeled correctly.

[H]ardNews 7th Edition

9700 Pro A-I-W:

Sudhian reviews what can only be described as the best all around card on the market today, the Radeon 9700Pro All-In-Wonder. This is part one of a two part review, so don’t be disappointed if you are left hanging.

ATI has committed to bringing end users the best of both worlds when it comes to a graphics card with video editing and TV capabilities. They deliver the video side of things and then they are also delivering the fast 3D performance shown here. The All-In-Wonder Radeon 9700 is a solid product and performs very well and is packed with features, software, and a remote.

Kazaa Has Serious Flaw:

Kazaa is patching a serious flaw they found. There is a patch out for the program, so all you file sharing monkeys better get over there and grab the patch. Here is an outline of the problem:

The recent flaw allows music companies to gain access to your computer so they can steal their music back from you.

Heh, I made that up.

Hydor L30 Pump:

Gruntville looks at the Hydor L30 water pump. These are fairly new to the water cooling circuit, and personally I have had mixed results with this pump, but when they work…they work great.

The Hydor L30 is on the top of my recommendations for a water cooled system. Undeniable performance, fantastic pricing and all wrapped in a small package. The manual and parts list ensures that no matter what happens to your pump, you have the info to get a replacement part without searching for hours on the web.

Mods & Ends:

Vantec UV Fans @ X-Trememodz - PCToyz Mobile Hard Drive Rack @ PimpRig - FlexiGlow Lazer Beam LED @ SubZeroTech - Lian Li “Fishtank” Case @ Hardware Zoom - Monster Ethernet Cable @ ModTown

[H]ardNews 6th Edition

Springdale SFF:

Wanna get your mini-powerhouse groove on with a Springdale small form factor Shuttle PC? Check out Lost Circuits review first, Michael has some good info in his review of what he calls “the most powerful XPC ever”.

This time, Shuttle did not waste any time to follow up on the release of Intel's Springdale platform and pushed out an SFF system based on the i865G chipset for "Dual channel DDR - P4 pleasure coming to an XPC near you". Some of the collateral Springdale features like CSA and SoundMAX4 have been omitted in favor of the established ALC650 CODEC and the RealTek RTL8100B network controller but that does not diminish the overall impression that the SB61G2 is the most powerful XPC ever.

How Patents Work:

You hear all the talk about patents, but do you really know how patents work? They aren’t as easy to get as people make them out to be. Thanks Blair.

Patents are a government's way of giving an inventor ownership of his or her creation. For a certain period of time, patent-holders are allowed to control how their inventions are used, allowing them to reap the financial rewards of their work. Patents are a palpable, legally-binding manifestation of a person's genius and innovation; they allow a person to actually own an idea.

Big Gaming:

Dean Woodyatt says his rig ain’t as impressive as the guy we showed you last month using the local cinema movie screen for his Xbox, but he is trying. The more often I see these guys using projectors for gaming and / or surfing the [H], it makes me want to get a decent projector and set up a room to do the same. Nothing compares to gaming at 5ft x 7ft and up.

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[H]ardNews - Blair Tech Ed.

Nanosurfing:

A trip to Mars was the reason Nanosurf AG came into being. About seven years ago, Nanosurf’s founders were working at the same University of Basel lab that collaborated with IBM to make the world’s first scanning tunneling microscopes. NASA needed an atomic force microscope to test dust storm particles to see how small and sharp they were before sending any humans there.

PC Theft Prevention?

Pilfering a PC may become less appealing, if software makers Phoenix Technologies and Softex have their way. The two companies are teaming to offer software called TheftGuard, which is designed to be anchored in the guts of PCs and automatically disable any stolen machine connected to the Internet.

Electronic Engineering Milestone:

Massachusetts Institute of Technology's university-level combined electrical engineering/computer science departments, one of the nation's oldest, commemorated its 100th anniversary here Friday (May 23), renewing its lofty mission of serving society "by educating students who will help the world understand and wisely embrace the emerging technologies" of nanotechnology, bioengineering and quantum engineering.

Designing Better Robots:

In a large room in Georgia Tech's College of Computing, Thomas Collins is tweaking the behavior of a machine. Around him stand a gaggle of robots, some with trash can figures, others resembling miniature all-terrain vehicles. They appear to be merely functional, plodding pieces of equipment. But these unlikely contraptions can "think" in the sense that they can react to and reason about their environment.

[H]ardNews 4th Edition

More SCO News:

Most of us are anxiously watching this whole deal with SCO and Linux because it could have a huge impact on things if the case is decided in favor of SCO. Microsoft jumping into the mix last week on the side of SCO only complicated matters worse.

Linux has steadily gained a foothold in corporate servers during the past few years as companies have sought to save money and Linux functionality has improved. But that upward trend could stall if IT managers fear the legal dispute between SCO and IBM--a tussle that was escalated last week when Microsoft sided with SCO.

This article outlines theories as to why Microsoft actually purchased the licensing agreement with SCO. This story essentially counters the belief that MS is simply underwriting SCO’s legal fees. Either way, the deal with Microsoft is a benefit to SCO and the legal battle ahead.

[H]ardNews 3rd Edition

ABIT IS7 Review:

People interested in the newly released Springdale chipset might want to seriously consider checking out this ABIT IS7 motherboard review at Ninja Lane today. Do you ever secretly wonder who lives on Ninja Lane? I bet finding socks for them funny looking ninja shoes would be hard.

For a long time ABIT has been very popular with the enthusiast crowd due in part to their quality of work, and impressive package of overclocking and tweaking controls, and the IS7 is no exception. Right out of the box the IS7 ran strong, stable and will actually go down in Ninjalane history as one of the few motherboards to finish a benchmarking session in less than a day.

Swiftech H20:

Swiftech builds some of the best water blocks in the business, but as you can see from this review at OCAddiction, their latest kit falls victim to a very small radiator coupled with small fans resulting in poor cooling performance.

As you can see, at Idle both cooling units are very close in temperature. But under load is another story. The Swiftech H20-8500 was handily beaten by the Koolance Exos by 5 degrees Celsius. This was done with the Koolance Exos running with the fans in its quiet mode. If the fans are brought up to full speed it only gets worse for the Swiftech H20-8500. This clearly was very disappointing.

Not only are these radiators not recommended for performance use, they also have had issues with leakage due to the hose inlet busting loose from the radiator body. My advice is to buy the blocks, but get a different radiator for sure.

GFFX 5900 Ultra:

The Hardware Zone folks have posted their impressions of the GeForce FX 5900Ultra. The fellas were not able to retest with the latest 3DMark03 330 patch and offer an explanation here:

We no longer have the GeForce FX 5900 Ultra graphics card to rerun them with the latest benchmark build. However, you can still roughly figure out where the GeForce FX5900 Ultra would perform via two measures. With the average 25% drop as found by Futuremark (in their test setup) for the FX 5900 Ultra on driver version 44.03, you can subtract that value with the results we’ve obtained.